GRDIII vs. GRDII - side by side photos

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GRDIII vs. GRDII - side by side photos

Postby odklizec » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:28 pm

All photos were taken with the same settings except the WB (and shutter speed of course), where in case of GRDIII was used Multi-pattern Auto WB while GRDII was set to Auto WB.

GRDIII is reportedly more sensitive to light and so there is tendency for overexposure. It often requires to go with exposure compensation down to force the camera to use faster shutter speed. Otherwise, you might be surprised by many overexposed photos. I think it's just the price we pay for more sensitive sensor?

full resolution files:
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In case of this photo, I forgot to reset detailed WB settings. Hence the color shift. Of course, DNG is unaffected by WB settings.
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:59 pm
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/1520 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -3/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1069708.DNG
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:06 pm
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/1410 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -3/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070811.DNG
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:14 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/153 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
_1069711.JPG
_1069711.DNG
_1069711_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:24 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/125 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: 0 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070813.DNG
_1070813_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:17 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/30 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1069712.DNG
_1069712_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:28 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/18 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070817.DNG
_1070817_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:43 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/380 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1069715.DNG
_1069715_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:54 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/380 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070820.DNG
_1070820_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:47 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/570 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
_1069717.JPG
_1069717.DNG
_1069717_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:59 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/620 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070821.DNG
_1070821_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:50 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/310 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1069718.DNG
_1069718_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:01 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/290 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070822.DNG
_1070822_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:54 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/810 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1069719.DNG
_1069719_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:05 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/810 Sec
F-number: F/4.5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
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_1070823.DNG
_1070823_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:59 am
Focus length: 6 mm
Shutter speed: 1/1410 Sec
F-number: F/5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 3
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -1/1 EV
Metering mode: Pattern

full resolution files:
_1069720.JPG
_1069720.DNG
_1069720_sm.jpg
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EXIF-Data
Image taken on: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:09 am
Focus length: 5.9 mm
Shutter speed: 1/1410 Sec
F-number: F/5
ISO speed rating: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Camera-model: GR DIGITAL 2
Exposure program: Aperture priority
Exposure bias: -7/10 EV
Metering mode: Pattern
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Re: GRDIII vs. GRDII - side by side photos

Postby CHICHORNIO » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:05 am

Hi Pavel, thanks for sharing the test. Although I´m not planning to buy the GRD 3 (I´m still waiting for a bigger sensor Camera from Ricoh), I noticed that the GRD 2 pictures looks a little greenish after developed in ypur test. Did you used Silkypix with the GRD 2 taste that Mr. Nevill put on the web? It happened the same to me. If I apply this taste as a default, the picture looks more green than usual, so I´m using the Auto Silkypix evaluation.
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Re: GRDIII vs. GRDII - side by side photos

Postby odklizec » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:16 am

Sorry, I forgot to say that the pictures are completely unprocessed! What you see here are out of camera JPEGs (just resized). I think the color difference is caused by Auto WB. I never liked the GRDII Auto WB. I personally prefer Cloudy WB with GRDII, which looks much warmer. GRDIII Multi-pattern Auto WB is much more precise.
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Re: GRDIII vs. GRDII - side by side photos

Postby CHICHORNIO » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:28 am

I also used Auto WB in my GRD 2 but my pictures (jpgs) looks redish o with a little "magenta" tint. Only when I open the RAW in Silkypix it´s when they look more accurate. Is that normal? I remember someone saying that GRD 2 pictures goes "to magenta" o cooler tint most of the time.
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Re: GRDIII vs. GRDII - side by side photos

Postby Grus74 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:25 pm

Just wanted to say great work Pavel! I almost take it for granted now that you'll make superb tesing and comparisions so it's important to remember, and be glad, that you take the (spare/free/extra) time to give as all this usefull information. Thanks! Keep it up! :D
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